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Whats The Difference Racing Gear Set (tranny Set) At Gear Set 1,2, & 4??

RX4439

New Member
To Docgabby.
If i'm using the CMS Gearbox Fullset, Highway.

(33/13) - 1st gear
(29/17) - 2nd gear
(23/17) - 3rd gear
(23/21) - 4th gear


and additional IKK Primary Gear & Clutch Gear Assy (72/22)
Is it suitable for long distance?
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
To Docgabby.
If i'm using the CMS Gearbox Fullset, Highway.

(33/13) - 1st gear
(29/17) - 2nd gear
(23/17) - 3rd gear
(23/21) - 4th gear

and additional IKK Primary Gear & Clutch Gear Assy (72/22)
Is it suitable for long distance?
for highway riding, i prefer the following
gear 1- stock (34/12)
gear 2- 29/17
gear 3- 22/17
gear 4- stock (23/22)
i also prefer the stock primary gear ratio- 69/24.
this combo gives you good top speed especially on long straights.
this is a wide ratio combination to me.
highway riding does not require quickness but sustained high speed!:cool::rolleyes::D:coffee::thumbsup:
 

lilsai

Super Veteran
for highway riding, i prefer the following
gear 1- stock (34/12)
gear 2- 29/17
gear 3- 22/17
gear 4- stock (23/22)
i also prefer the stock primary gear ratio- 69/24.
this combo gives you good top speed especially on long straights.
this is a wide ratio combination to me.
highway riding does not require quickness but sustained high speed!:cool::rolleyes::D:coffee::thumbsup:
doc! is this for stock, higher displacement snipey? i'm a sport-tourer type rider on an all stock snipey...
 

RX4439

New Member
for highway riding, i prefer the following
gear 1- stock (34/12)
gear 2- 29/17
gear 3- 22/17
gear 4- stock (23/22)
i also prefer the stock primary gear ratio- 69/24.
this combo gives you good top speed especially on long straights.
this is a wide ratio combination to me.
highway riding does not require quickness but sustained high speed!:cool::rolleyes::D:coffee::thumbsup:
Yup, what u said is preferable.
but why they called the gearbox for highway use if the ratio such close to each other....
wondering why...

Docgabby, is it possible if gearbox 5 speed combine with gearbox 4 speed, is it possible?
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
Yup, what u said is preferable.
but why they called the gearbox for highway use if the ratio such close to each other....
wondering why...

Docgabby, is it possible if gearbox 5 speed combine with gearbox 4 speed, is it possible?
we can choose our own combination based on what aftermarket is available. the thai sets are different. so its up to the buyer how he thinks the transmission suits his/her needs. sorry to say the four gear model cant just be converted to a five speed. but the five speed can be converted to a six speed.
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
doc! is this for stock, higher displacement snipey? i'm a sport-tourer type rider on an all stock snipey...
stock or higher displacement i'd use the same combo. the sprocket combo will just be different and of course higher displacement the faster it can go.
 

RX4439

New Member
we can choose our own combination based on what aftermarket is available. the thai sets are different. so its up to the buyer how he thinks the transmission suits his/her needs. sorry to say the four gear model cant just be converted to a five speed. but the five speed can be converted to a six speed.
Yeah, i just read your comment in http://yamahat135.com/threads/2011-yamaha-t135-transmission-5-speed-vs-old-4-speed.8308/,
It cannot be converted, thanx a lot. I'm trying to find the seller in Malaysia that sell LHK Gearbox but, i cannot find one. Because CMS Gear box for 3rd gear 23/17, but LHK is 22/17.
Btw, is there any gearbox from other brand that have many choice of the gearbox?
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
Yeah, i just read your comment in http://yamahat135.com/threads/2011-yamaha-t135-transmission-5-speed-vs-old-4-speed.8308/,
It cannot be converted, thanx a lot. I'm trying to find the seller in Malaysia that sell LHK Gearbox but, i cannot find one. Because CMS Gear box for 3rd gear 23/17, but LHK is 22/17.
Btw, is there any gearbox from other brand that have many choice of the gearbox?
faito. kitti, sps. hipseed are the brands i know of. or you can go custom gear, ...try hermanu hku racing from indonesia he can make you a wide ratio or close ratio. i have ordered custom gears from him for my sniper 200cc dragbike.
 

RX4439

New Member
faito. kitti, sps. hipseed are the brands i know of. or you can go custom gear, ...try hermanu hku racing from indonesia he can make you a wide ratio or close ratio. i have ordered custom gears from him for my sniper 200cc dragbike.
Custom made? wow! thats superb!!! wonder if there is machine can do that in Malaysia. i think i'll search for it.
Btw Docgabby, have heard about some method called "Isotropic Superfinishing", is it give an advantage or disadvantage?
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
Custom made? wow! thats superb!!! wonder if there is machine can do that in Malaysia. i think i'll search for it.
Btw Docgabby, have heard about some method called "Isotropic Superfinishing", is it give an advantage or disadvantage?
there are custom gear makers in malaysia for sure. alot of underbone racing parts come from malaysia and indonesia. for sure you will find one.
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
REM Isotropic Superfinish

When two metals come in contact with one another, the friction created causes the metals to heat up. A surface that seems smooth to the touch and to the naked eye, when put under a microscope, can be seen to have many irregularities and ridges, like a mountain range. When you have two pieces of metal that come in contact with each other, these ridges grind against one another and create friction and heat. Lubricants are used to lessen the effects of the grinding, but much of the damage cannot be averted without more drastic measures.

The REM ISF™ process smoothes out these ridges at a molecular level so you have an even surface, resulting in a longer component lifespan and less friction, which means less heat generated. Using the REM ISF™ process to remove surface asperities allows your components to operate at lower temperatures, with greater durability, quieter operation, and increased efficiency. If you drive a race car, what you get are parts that last longer, move freer, and stay cooler than the competition. 50-60% reduction in parasitic drag is common. The superfinishing process enhances the capability of the lubricant you use and requires less frequent oil changes, with less metallic buildup when you do decide its time to change the oil.

REM's patented ISF™ process is used in many different industries, where performance and longevity is of utmost importance. The process is not industry specific and ranges, from aerospace and military applications, to professional racing, all the way to hobbyists.
 

RX4439

New Member
REM Isotropic Superfinish


When two metals come in contact with one another, the friction created causes the metals to heat up. A surface that seems smooth to the touch and to the naked eye, when put under a microscope, can be seen to have many irregularities and ridges, like a mountain range. When you have two pieces of metal that come in contact with each other, these ridges grind against one another and create friction and heat. Lubricants are used to lessen the effects of the grinding, but much of the damage cannot be averted without more drastic measures.

The REM ISF™ process smoothes out these ridges at a molecular level so you have an even surface, resulting in a longer component lifespan and less friction, which means less heat generated. Using the REM ISF™ process to remove surface asperities allows your components to operate at lower temperatures, with greater durability, quieter operation, and increased efficiency. If you drive a race car, what you get are parts that last longer, move freer, and stay cooler than the competition. 50-60% reduction in parasitic drag is common. The superfinishing process enhances the capability of the lubricant you use and requires less frequent oil changes, with less metallic buildup when you do decide its time to change the oil.

REM's patented ISF™ process is used in many different industries, where performance and longevity is of utmost importance. The process is not industry specific and ranges, from aerospace and military applications, to professional racing, all the way to hobbyists.
Hurm, seems like more better than std finishing, i think i will cost much more? am i right?
 

RX4439

New Member
Docgabby,
I already try the combination between IKK clutch gear with gearbox ratio that u suggest.
IKK have more torque, and really unstable during long distance especially on highway. The engine vibration to heavy + High RPM reach to soon.
When i back to STD Original clutch gear, totally awesome!!! Feels really comfortable, Less Vibration, High RPM still can obtain.
Thanx a Lotx!!!
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
Docgabby,
I already try the combination between IKK clutch gear with gearbox ratio that u suggest.
IKK have more torque, and really unstable during long distance especially on highway. The engine vibration to heavy + High RPM reach to soon.
When i back to STD Original clutch gear, totally awesome!!! Feels really comfortable, Less Vibration, High RPM still can obtain.
Thanx a Lotx!!!
ngeh....:confused:..just adjust with sprocket in order to lessen gaps between shifts. since in highway riding you shift less you dont want to sacrifice pull with too much high speed too. "just right" is highly individual....:)
 

RX4439

New Member
ngeh....:confused:..just adjust with sprocket in order to lessen gaps between shifts. since in highway riding you shift less you dont want to sacrifice pull with too much high speed too. "just right" is highly individual....:)
Yeah, about the sprocket, its not be a problem, because i have plenty of sprocket set. from 30 until 42.
BTW, can i ask u something, regarding the HGM Exhaust from ur country. How many type do they have?
 

docgabby

Super Veteran
Yeah, about the sprocket, its not be a problem, because i have plenty of sprocket set. from 30 until 42.
BTW, can i ask u something, regarding the HGM Exhaust from ur country. How many type do they have?
that i cannot share my opinion on...we have thai, malaysian and other brands to choose from. maybe the other forumers can give their share on pipes.
 

RX4439

New Member
@docgabby,
Wanna ast u something, why the engine bearing for clutch. i think 6202. Behind the Housing Clutch, still broke. I just change it twice, 1st 2010, 2nd 2011. Then when i check it again last week, still broke at same bearing. From STD gearbox, aftermarket gearbox. what happen?
 
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