BATTERY CONCERN

[tibay-sniper]

Hi experts,

I need advice, can't seem to use my electric start button. When i used it when not heating the engine MC it won't work it seems that is like loWbat or something but when the engine MC is heated it will work?! what seems to be the problem?!

Cause one time i forgot to check my battery and it went down like i can't use the electric start so when i checked it the battery its almost drained with distilled water so i poured it full and since then the problem exist.

Need advice.. thanks

(HIRAP MAGEXPLAIN NG ENGLISH HAHAHA)

 

[marvymavs]

Had you tried charging the battery after filling it up with distilled water? How old is your battery? Usually a battery's life is 2-3 years. It will eventually loses its 100% useable power as you use it. In our case, the "one-click" starting when our bike is new will become lumpy as we use our electric starter. Even if we poured in distilled water for maintenance, it will not bring it back to 100%

If your battery is new and you experienced that same problem, there might be a fault in your electical system, namely, the rectifier and the charging coil. HTH.

 

[tibay-sniper]

nope, not yet. that y i brought this up here first before doing anything.. hehehe

my battery is 9months old...

i hope it only needs charging, but the thing is their is no problem with the lights or anything its just the electric start...

thanks bro marvs, hehehe

 

[wingman44]

Hi experts,

I need advice, can't seem to use my electric start button. When i used it when not heating the engine MC it won't work it seems that is like loWbat or something but when the engine MC is heated it will work?! what seems to be the problem?!

Cause one time i forgot to check my battery and it went down like i can't use the electric start so when i checked it the battery its almost drained with distilled water so i poured it full and since then the problem exist.

Need advice.. thanks

(HIRAP MAGEXPLAIN NG ENGLISH HAHAHA)

Brod I believe your battery is already weak. Kaya siya gumagana pag mainit na engine mo kasi pag naandar engine ng mc natin, nare recharge uli ang battery so may power na nppadagdag. Kaya napansin mong pag mainit ang engine, ok ang battery mo.
Mas lalo ng weak ang battery kapag natuyuan na ng water ang kahit isang plate nito. AT kahit punuin pa uli ng water at i-fully charge natin, di na rin maibabalik yung dating lakas ng battery. May tama na kasi yung plate na natuyuan.
I suggest that you replace your current battery with a good after-market MAINTENANCE-FREE battery para wala ng hassle sa pagmo monitor ng water level. I recommend a GS maintenance-free battery. Relatively, affordable ang price nito at GS batteries na rin ang gamit ng yamaha sa mga brand new mc nila. Just make sure genuine ang mabibili mo. Dami kasi mga fakes ngayon.

 

[marvymavs]

No problem bro. Glad to help a fellow rider. Drained battery water is a sure battery killer. Even if it is new, you are making the useable life of youe batt shorter.

You might want charge your battery. You can determine if your battery's power is low if your horn (busina) is "paos" (sorry, do not know the term). Do this without the engine running. Just turn the ignition on.

I remember one morning that I had a lumpy engine starting using my push button on my Sniper, I rode my bike in a sudden down pour but since it is near my house I ride my way home the night before. I checked the button and it is wet, I wiped it dry and sprayed contact cleaner and the problem is gone.

 

[tibay-sniper]

@bro wingman

thanks input, how much do that GS maintenance free battery cost?!?! how long is the life this kind of battery?!

can't i try charging my battery first?! to check?! and then once proven i will buy the GS maintenance free battery...



@bro marvy

thanks men, i will try to do a full maintenance on my dayoff... hehehe kinda busy at work... i remembered my niece was washing my MC on that day hehehe maybe a coincidence.. hehehe


really nice input, learned a lot...

 

[wingman44]

@bro wingman

thanks input, how much do that GS maintenance free battery cost?!?! how long is the life this kind of battery?!

can't i try charging my battery first?! to check?! and then once proven i will buy the GS maintenance free battery...



@bro marvy

thanks men, i will try to do a full maintenance on my dayoff... hehehe kinda busy at work... i remembered my niece was washing my MC on that day hehehe maybe a coincidence.. hehehe


really nice input, learned a lot...

Mas mabuti siguro drain mo muna LAHAT ng water sa battery mo then put 20% battery solution and 80% distilled water. Tapos i-full charge mo ang battery then try mo kung ok na siya kahit sa morning start up.
But if symptoms persist, see a doctor. I mean see a reputable battery dealer. I'm from Cavite and GS maintenance-free battery costs around P1,150 here. I've been using this battery for 5 months now at okey pa naman ito. Naka HID at stebel truck horn pa ang bike ko.

 

[tibay-sniper]

wow kainggit, try ko maghanap nyan...

ahh kalimotan ko bro, dipala distilled yung sakin, battery solution pala yun lahat?! so ok lang bah punuin ko lahat ng battery solution?!

sabi din ng kaibigan ko mas maigi daw pag slow charing kesa sa fast charging... totoo bah?! hehehe

 

[wingman44]

wow kainggit, try ko maghanap nyan...

ahh kalimotan ko bro, dipala distilled yung sakin, battery solution pala yun lahat?! so ok lang bah punuin ko lahat ng battery solution?!

sabi din ng kaibigan ko mas maigi daw pag slow charing kesa sa fast charging... totoo bah?! hehehe

Kung puro battery solution na ang nailagay mo, baka lang mas umikli ang life ng battery. Kasi since luma na ang battery, medyo brittle na ang mga plates. Matapang ang battery solution kaya dini-dilute namin ang solution by adding distilled water. Okey din namang puro solution kaya nga lang baka lalong di tumagal ang battery.
Tama ang friend mo, mas okey ang slow charging kasi hindi artificial charging ang mangyayari. Sa fast charging kasi, mabilis mag full, mabilis ding mag drain. Nagpapaikli pa ito ng battery life.

 

[tibay-sniper]

talaga, sigeh bro. try ko yang mga advice mo sakin... try ko drained muna lahat tapos lagyan ko ng 20% battery solution and 80% distilled water din slow charging agad.. hehehe sana bumalik sa dati.. huhuhu

thanks talaga bro wingman... ur the man

 

[marvymavs]

Sir wingman is correct. Pure battery solution is very concentrated to a point that it might erode your battery's lead plates quickly. Shorter battery life. And I also agree on the slow-charging issue. Slowly but surely.

Just be careful on handling the liquid that you will drain on your battery. It is very acidic. If an accidental splash occur, wash your hand with soap and water.

 

[marvymavs]

We are not experts bro tibay but we are willing to help based on our experiences and ideas.

@ wingman,

AFAIK, Yuasa is the brand of our OEM battery. Am I right? Lucky for those who will have a GS battery installed as OEM.

 

[marcusfilter]

YUASA is the stock battery...dunno for the new batch of snipee...

you can try MF imarflex as well...tested for years...perfectly fit in our bike...

im using the same amp and brand for my nuovo with HID and Bosch horn for a year...no problem at all...58.5 bore as well...ha ha ha

 

[chiglai]

sa binisaya pa bai.. kelangan na pulihan imong baterya kay basta mahubsan di na gyud na sya ing ana ka kusgan mo karga... sakto ang sulti ni marcusfilter ok kayo ang imarflex mao sad na ako gamit sobra na 1 year sa akoa karon wala pa gyapon nag problema bisan kapila na drain sauna kay na short ako wiring hantod karon 1 click ra gyapon starter...

 

[hearthrob16]

also try GS battery..also race and street proven..

 

[tibay-sniper]

@bro chiglai, bro pila pud na siya bro?! barato rah?! IMARFLEX noh?! maintenance free pud na siya bay?! kay murag mag ilis nalang jud diay ko ani oie, hasol naman kung mag charge2x pako...

@marvy thanks bro, thats y i ask yamahat135 guys cause i know ill get the answers that will satisfy me.

@marcus thanks bro, ill try to compare the price for IMARFLEX and GS hehehe since those2 are the brands that were mention here.

are those brands, maintenance free?!??!

 

[wingman44]

We are not experts bro tibay but we are willing to help based on our experiences and ideas.

@ wingman,

AFAIK, Yuasa is the brand of our OEM battery. Am I right? Lucky for those who will have a GS battery installed as OEM.

You are right brod. Yuasa WAS the brand of our stock batteries. Even my bike had the same brand of battery when I bought it. Recently however, I've noticed that almost all of the newly-bought Yamaha bikes that were brought to our shop have GS brand batteries in them. I asked my friends from the Yamaha assembly plant in Batangas about this and they told me that YMPI now installs GS batteries to all models. As I understands it, economics was YMPI's reason. GS batteries are much cheaper than Yuasa batteries.
@ brod Tibay-Sniper
Whatever brand you decide to buy, make sure they are genuine. It doesn't always pay to buy the cheap ones. Most of the times, they are cheap, but so is their quality.
Always glad to be of help. Sarap ng feeling pag may natutulungan tayo. di ba? Who knows, maybe one day I'd ask for your help when I get to visit Cebu again. Kasabut ko dyutay piro dili ko kasulti, bay.

 

[tibay-sniper]

@WINGMAN hehehe makabasa pud ka og binisaya bay?! hehehe

thanks a lot bro for the lesson about battery hehehe learned a lot and will apply it...

no prob bay, willing to help you once i get a chance... hehehe
kita kits sa cebu this coming 2010 visayas ride, wait nalang ako sa inyo dito hehehe

 

[wingman44]

@WINGMAN hehehe makabasa pud ka og binisaya bay?! hehehe

thanks a lot bro for the lesson about battery hehehe learned a lot and will apply it...

no prob bay, willing to help you once i get a chance... hehehe
kita kits sa cebu this coming 2010 visayas ride, wait nalang ako sa inyo dito hehehe[/quote

Kasabut man ko bay piro gamay lang. Oki man advice sa imo ni brod chiglai.
My dream ride is to be able to conquer Mindanao and the Visayas, aboard my bike. I have friends in these areas cause I used to cover them when I was still in the corporate world. That was how I learned the dialects from the south. I also had an ex-gf from uptown Cebu who I hope will never get to see me when I go back there. Baka habulin ako ng baril. he he he.
Sana nga makasama ako dyan next year. If you have problems regarding your bike, just ask. We, from SOS, are always willing to help a fellow biker. Always ride safe brod

 

[tibay-sniper]

hahaha patay ka bro, imo siguro gipamagdusan noh?! hehehe naa na diay kay lahi na bisaya bro... hehhe

yup i know bro SOS are always willing to help, and not SOS alone, everybody here in yamahat135... thats y i post my concern here hehehe